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@Kevin 67391 wrote:

I’d like to hear where it was mentioned that there is a problem with the allotted numbers of spaces for exotics. It becomes a problem when, like I and many others have said NUMEROUS times, when the Mustang rows fill up, and more Mustangs show up, THEY PARK IN OTHER ROWS INSTEAD OF SPECTATOR PARKING.

Again, they are NOT lazy. Some of the owners I know get up at 6 and get there early. Again, like I and others have said numerous times (which you have failed to understand), if they weren’t coned off…refer to the scenario above. Look at how many spaces Mustangs alone get, compared to the Italian row.

For Mustangs alone, I counted 74 painted spaces, plus more “stripeless” spaces (like against the curb near the service road). Italians? 21. If 21 Mustangs showed up, and those 21 spaces weren’t coned off, guess where they would go?

Just because YOU don’t care for them does NOT mean EVERYONE doesn’t care for them. You can’t be like Kim Jong-un and force everyone to not care for a specific car. Again, something you have failed to understand, 80% of people spend most of their time in the Italian row, or looking at other exotics and uncommon stuff. Why? Because the cars there are cars we don’t see on a daily basis. Here’s a challenge. Drive around your area and tell me how long it takes to find one of these three. The first is a 1966 Ferrari 330 GTC, one of only 600 produced. The second is a Lamborghini Gallardo. The third is an Alfa Romeo 156.



Too hard? Wanna know why? The Ferrari is obvious; that is a collector car, and most owners don’t like to drive them. The Gallardo, for many, is considered a weekend toy and again is not daily driven. The Alfa, while a common car in Europe, was never sold in the states, and is a grey import. Here’s an easier challenge. Do the same thing, and tell me how long it takes to see a Mustang, or 2010 Camaro.

NO. The reason why others don’t attend is because they can go see half of what’s in the lot at a local Walmart parking lot. It’s obvious that you don’t realize this.

The EXACT same thing applies to Mustangs. You see one, you’ve seen them all…except on a daily basis.

AMEN! I agree 100% with everything you said.

@Taxman 66339 wrote:

The reason there are more Mustangs, Camaros, Challengers, and Corvettes is because there are more car enthusiasts who own these. The exotics that were turned away or are parking in the overflow section are there because they chose to show up late. Get there on time, and there is always a spot. Maybe YOU want to see the exotics, but a lot of people love to see good old American Muscle cars too. The reason CnC is so successful is because all the different car clubs participate. If you took out the American cars clubs or the import car clubs, CnC would consist of a few exotics and an empty parking lot. Just enjoy the show, and if you don’t like Mustangs or Corvettes, walk down another aisle.

Eric asked for us to give our opinions and critiques, if you don’t like mine that’s your right. The fact of the matter is that 50-70% of the lot is filled with American Muscle Cars. I don’t know if you are aware of this, but anything over 50% is considered a “majority”. I understand that all sorts of cars and car clubs show up but if you have one region of cars that takes up the “majority” of the space, it overshadows everybody else.

I urge all car clubs to organize before each meet and find out who all is going. Then have your group decide who should and shouldn’t park in the lot. Most of all, people should use common sense.

I don’t have a problem with American Muscle cars at all. I do have a problem with having so many of the same type there. Next time you go just watch people. They walk past all the stock/nearly stock muscle cars unless it has been highly customized or is a classic. Myself and others feel like you walk by and have the “seen one, you’ve seen them all” type feeling.

Lastly, maybe YOU want to see the American Muscle cars but a lot of people love to see the exotics. The reason CnC is so successful is because all the different car clubs participate. If you took out the imports and exotics, CnC would look like a Ford dealership. Remember. just enjoy the show.

@CW240Z 66381 wrote:

The problem is that the “American Muscle” overflows their sectioned aisles, and choke up the foreign car side and any place they can find to park.

Agreed.

@p4R4d0x 65623 wrote:

I agree with better controlling who parks in the “show” area of the lot, but specifically targeting certain models or price limits might ostracize some groups that might make them not want to come back. If it happens it has to happen carefully so that future attendance doesn’t drop – just my $.02. That being said, I do end up skipping about half of the lot when wandering around.. I would also add classic cars to #2 on William48’s list – it was great seeing the old Mini Cooper’s there this month, it would be a shame if they were turned out for being stock.

As for William48’s pictures suggestion, there is a Flickr group for the Dallas C&C that a few of us post to. If you like a picture you see there, it’s easy to see who took it, and there are links on the right hand side that will take you directly to that persons album or photostream so you can see more that they took at the show: http://www.flickr.com/groups/1094873@N24/pool/with/6971633533/ Not a perfect solution, just maybe something that could be linked to from here or something.

I edited my first post to add in the classic cars. I’ll be sure to check out that Flickr group too.

@decodroid 65633 wrote:

Specific models have been mentioned, but I think the main point is not what kind of cars they are, but that late model vehicles in general have taken up a disproportionate number of spaces, relative to the size of the venue. I would feel the same way if all of a sudden a hundred ’57 Chevy’s started showing up early and crowding everyone else out. It’s an issue of balance more than anything.

Exactly, you have to find the happy medium because here recently it has been unbalanced.

@CW240Z 65641 wrote:

What if they setup the meets where Saturday was a foreign car show, and Sunday was a domestic show? That way no one gets offended by being turned down (Mustang owners) and there will be plenty of room.

That would be asking a lot on BMW’s part to tie up the lot for half a day, two days in a row. Who knows, they might be game.